史泰龙李小龙谁出名(柔道天才海沃德)

史泰龙李小龙谁出名(柔道天才海沃德)(1)

海沃德·西岗

为道塾·编者按:关于李小龙,在网络空间,长期以来,有很多人喜欢评论李小龙,一个个言之戳戳,仿佛专家。

吊诡的是,这些“评论家”们往往没有一个真正系统的练过截拳道,或真正深入了解过李小龙,更别说曾经与李小龙共事、同训,切磋,交流。

因此,他们的“评论”,“断言”,常常只是凭梁静茹给的勇气,人云亦云,以盲导盲,将谣言、八卦当事实,令人扼腕。

为道塾能够做的,就是尽量用事实来说话,尽量还原或接近李小龙武术历史的真相。

请那些真正有资格评论李小龙的人,用他们的经历,感受,以图文、视频等方式来说话,以供参考,以资互证,让李小龙从历史的时空里走出来,变得有血有肉,变得立体可亲,以及,让更多的人,让我们,可以从中吸取一代宗师的精神正能量,通过自我发现,见贤思齐。

以下译文,来自海沃德·西岗访谈中与李小龙相关的综合内容。

作为那个时代的顶级柔道冠军,西岗对于李小龙的真诚回忆和由衷的赞美,或许能够让你进一步了解,近半个世纪前,李小龙宗师能够创出前无古人,超越时代的武术和影视成就,绝非凭借运气,更非浪得虚名。

注:本文附录有16篇为道塾“龙史传真”栏目文章链接。那些与李小龙同时代武术媒体人、武术家、搏击冠军、截拳道弟子们的证言证词,亦可供读者参考,彼此印证。

翻译:为道塾翻译组里长得最帅的,炒菜最好的周靖昆和杨智 译校:朱建华


史泰龙李小龙谁出名(柔道天才海沃德)(2)


Bruce Lee EXTRA - Hayward Nishioka talk about of Bruce Lee

Bruce Lee was ahead of his time. He was the fastest, strongest and best.

李小龙号外

海沃德·西岗(Hayward Nishioka)谈李小龙

“李小龙

是他所在的时代的先行者。

他是最快,

最强,

最好的”。


Hayward Nishioka (1942 - ), a 9th degree black belt in Judo, is also a Japanese-American community college physical education instructor and the former Judo Gold Medallist at the 1967 Pan American Games. He won five consecutive national championships from 1965 to 1970 and was ranked 5th in the world in 1965 and 1967. On January 13, 1987, Nishioka, at the age of 44, defeated challenger, Rickson Gracie (age 28) with a number of throws at his Judo school. Nishioka admitted training with Bruce in the 60s and personally sparred with Bruce. He was in awe of Bruce’s exceptional martial art prowess.

海沃德·西岗(Hayward Nishioka,1942~),日裔美国人,柔道黑带九段,1967年泛美运动会日裔美国社区学院体育教练,前柔道金牌得主。

他曾在1965年至1970年间,连续获得五次全美柔道冠军,在1965年和1967年间,柔道世界排名第5。

1987年1月13日,44岁的西岗在他的柔道道馆里,以多次投摔击败了挑战者雷克森·格雷西(Rickson Gracie,时年28岁)。

西岗承认在60年代曾与李小龙一起训练过,并曾亲自与李小龙切磋、对抗,他对李小龙非凡的武术才能感到敬畏

"I remember one time I was at Bruce's house," said Hayward Nishioka, who was voted into the BLACK BELT Hall of Fame twice for his judo, as both an instructor and a competitor. "I had done a little karate, but I couldn't hold a candle to him (Bruce). He was too fast for me; he would tap my head before I even got set. "Finally I asked Bruce what he would do if I just sat on the ground and waited for him to attack me," continued Nishioka. "He said he'd just walk away."

“我记得,有一次我在李小龙的家里,”海沃德·西岗说,他曾两次因柔道入选黑带名人堂,既是教练,也是选手。

"我曾经练过一点空手道(为道塾注:西岗曾获得松涛馆流空手道黑带三段)但我无法与他(李小龙)对抗。他对我来说太快了,他总是在我还没准备好的时候,就能轻轻拍打到我的头。”

最后,我问李小龙,如果我只是躺在地面上等他来攻击我,他会怎么做,”

西岗继续说:"他说,他会直接走开。"


龙史传真|柔道冠军西岗:我知道李小龙不参加擂台赛的历史真相

龙史传真|空手道冠军鲍勃:只要李小龙愿意他就能成为世界冠军

龙史传真|空手道冠军鲍勃·沃尔:李小龙为什么能出类拔萃?

龙史传真|世界冠军鲍勃:让我们直说吧,李小龙是真正的高手


Says Hayward Nishioka, ‘He was the quickest person I’ve ever seen. In that area he was king. And he knew it. He had that same cockiness Americans have. Americans say, “I’m arrogant, and I’ll show you why. I can do it. I’m good.”

海沃德·西岗说,他是我所见过的(反应和动作速度)最快的人。在那个领域里,他是王者。他自己也知道这一点。

(在这点上)他有美国人一样的自傲。美国人说,"我很骄傲,我会告诉你为什么。因为,我能做到。我很好。"

Nishioka said in fact, many martial artists had sparred with Bruce and had the similar experience as him but many would not admit, mainly because they were afraid of losing face. Richard Bustillo, a student of Dan Inosanto, said he personally saw a sparring session with Chuck Norris and Bruce that left Norris red faced. Grandmaster Jhoon Rhee said he would not spar Lee because he would knock you out. As Lee was experimenting and creating his own art, thus, he would take up most challenges. He sparred anyone who wanted to spar. He sincerely wanted to learn, grow and dedicate himself to being the best.

西岗说,事实上,(当年)很多武术家都曾和李小龙有过对抗或切磋,也都有过和他类似的经历,但很多人都不愿承认,主要是因为他们害怕丢脸

丹·伊鲁山度(Dan Inosanto)的学生理查德·巴斯提罗(Richard Bustillo)说,他曾亲眼目睹了查克·罗礼士(Chuck Norris)和布鲁斯的一场对抗,结果,罗礼士被打成了一张大红脸。

李俊九大师(美国跆拳道之父)说他拒绝和李小龙比赛,因为他的(重拳)会将你打晕。

李小龙当时正在努力开创他自己的格斗体系,所以,他愿意接受挑战,和任何想和他实战的人实战。

他真诚地想要(通过实战来)学习、成长,并致力于成为最好的自己。


龙史传真|美国空手道冠军里布:我认为,我不是李小龙对手

龙史传真|世界空手道冠军吉姆·凯利:李小龙厉害到不可思议

龙史传真|空手道冠军凯利:别信龙黑,李小龙实战真的厉害

龙史传真|冠军老大陈惠敏:敢跟李小龙打都是傻佬来的


What is the consensus about Bruce from "real deal" fighters (Norris, Lewis, Wallace, Stone and Rhee) was that he was the fastest and possibly the strongest man that they had ever seen. Master Rhee has categorically stated: "I would demonstrate a kick to Bruce and a week later he would be able to do it as well as myself!"

那些真正的斗士们(如查克·罗礼士,乔·刘易斯,比尔·华莱士,迈克·斯通和李俊久)对李小龙的一致看法是,李小龙是他们见过的速度最快,可能也是体格最强壮的人。

李俊九大师曾回忆说:“我向李小龙示范了一种腿法,一周后,他就能踢得和我一样好!”


龙史传真|李俊九的秘密:李小龙总是在你做动作前就已击中你

龙史传真|战神迈克·斯通:李小龙显然有些超越了他的时代

为道塾·龙史传真|棍王伊鲁山度:李小龙能毫不费力的击倒我

龙史传真|空手道冠军路易斯:与李小龙过招我完全处于敬畏状态


Says Hayward Nishioka, “Bruce Lee was the best fighter, physically, I've ever seen. And he hit the hardest. I've sparred with just about every top karate man。in the sport, even had the wind knocked out of me by Joe Lewis side kick, but Bruce Lee hit harder than all of them"

海沃德·西岗说:

李小龙是我所见过的最好的体格最强的格斗家。

他的击打是最狠最重的。我跟当时几乎所有顶级的空手道家都实战过。

在对抗中,即使乔·刘易斯的侧踢让我喘不过气,

但李小龙的打击(和踢击)比他们其中任何一个人都要强劲有力。”

(为道塾注:西岗这段话,完全超越了体重和级别来比较李小龙的格斗重击能力。这从一个侧面,反映出李小龙当年有足够实力,与那个时代任何级别的职业选手对战。)


龙史传真|踢拳王刘易斯:李小龙的重击和重量级选手一样强劲

龙史传真|好莱坞海默斯:铁锤重击!令人惊异的李小龙寸劲拳

龙史传真|好莱坞斯里芬特:让李小龙踢了一脚,我三天不能动

龙史传真|咏春温鉴良:李小龙如果真的打,我师父都挺难顶


史泰龙李小龙谁出名(柔道天才海沃德)(3)


Below is an excerpt of Nishioka’s interview from the book, “Bruce Lee: Conversations – The Life & Legacy of A Legend” by Fiaz Rafiq published on 19th July 2011. This book is a compilation of over 50 exclusive interviews with Bruce Lee's original students, friends, co-stars and colleagues such as Rhoon Ree, Ji Han Jae, Hwang In-Shik, Joe Lewis, Hayward Nishioka, Dan Inosanto, Jesse Glover etc. Furthermore, there are also exclusive interviews with some of the best professional boxers, bodybuilders, UFC fighters who pay homage to the legend.


以下是对菲亚兹·拉菲克《李小龙:对话—传奇的一生与遗产》一书(2011年7月19日出版)中对西岗的采访摘要。

这本书是对李小龙的原传学生、朋友、联合主演和同事们,如李俊久、池汉载(Ji Han Jae)、黄仁植(Hwang In-Shik)、乔·刘易斯(Joe Lewis)、海沃德·西岗(Hayward Nishioka)、伊鲁山度(Dan Inosanto)、杰西·格洛弗(Jesse Glover)等50多次独家专访的合辑。

此外,还包括对当代一些顶尖的专业拳击手,健美运动员,UFC选手向传奇致敬的独家专访。

史泰龙李小龙谁出名(柔道天才海沃德)(4)

《李小龙:对话》一书封面书影

为道塾|詹姆斯·德迈尔:谁说李小龙不行?我来和你打!

龙史传真|空手道黑带布洛克:我和李小龙比武根本就碰不到他

龙史传真|空手道黑带三段李锦坤:我与李小龙的一次实战切磋

乔·恩本:如果你和李小龙生死对决,查克·罗礼士,请告诉我真相


According to Nishioka, when Bruce was living in LA, he would many times bring along a friend to witness this dynamo. Once he brought along Dr. Burt Siedler, a physical education professor at Cal state (LA). “When he first saw Bruce punching the speed bag,” Nishioka smiled, “he (Siedler) mentioned that if Bruce would seriously study boxing, he would be the lightweight champ in a year’s time.

Then, when he saw Bruce punch the heavy bag and jar it like a heavyweight with lefts and rights, he quickly changed his mind, saying that if Bruce should compete in the ring, he could become a champ in six months.

“Afterward Bruce told me to block his punches,” continued Nishioka. “Those punches were so fast that I couldn’t block any one of them. When Siedler saw that, he shook his head and changed his mind again, this time telling Bruce that he only needed one month to be the champ.”

根据西岗回忆,当李小龙住在洛杉矶的时候,他经常会带一些朋友去见识这位精力四射的斗士。

有一次,他带来了加州州立大学(LA)的体育教授伯特·西德勒博士(Dr. Burt Siedler)。

西岗微笑着回忆说:“当他第一次看到李小龙击打速度球的时候,他说如果李小龙认真学习拳击,一年后他将成为轻量级拳击冠军。”

接着,当他看到李小龙左右开弓像重量级拳击手一样猛击重沙袋时,他很快改变了主意,说如果李小龙能参加拳击比赛,他可以在六个月内成为冠军

“随后,李小龙叫我格挡他的拳击,”西岗继续说。“那些拳打得太快了,我无法格挡其中任何一拳。”当席德勒看到这些,他摇了摇头,又改变了主意,这次他告诉李小龙说,他只需要一个月就能成为冠军


为道塾·龙史传真|世界柔道冠军西岗:格斗中我无法靠近李小龙

为道塾·龙史传真|拉瑞·哈特赛尔:我和李小龙对抗如老鼠遇到猫

龙史传真|龙弟子史蒂夫:李小龙与跆拳道高手的一次斗腿比武

龙史传真|杰西·格罗弗:李小龙11秒KO日本空手道黑带


史泰龙李小龙谁出名(柔道天才海沃德)(5)

江上茂空手道专著封面

Another time, Nishioka brought along a student of Shigeru Egami, a noted Karate Sensei (teacher) in Japan. Hashimoto, who was a fourth dan (degree) black belt, had never heard of Bruce Lee before. But it didn’t take him long to respect Bruce’s skills.

还有一次,西岗带来了日本著名空手道师范江上茂(Shigeru Egami)的学生桥本。

桥本是空手道黑带四段,此前从未听说过李小龙,

但他很快就对李小龙的技能表达了尊重。


龙史传真|洪金宝:李小龙只是演员不能实战?你们全错了

内行看门道|世界拳王伦纳德:我复制了李小龙的格斗风格

内行看门道|散打王柳海龙:我们都是跟着李小龙大师学的侧踹腿

内行看门道|帕奎奥:我将李小龙的拳速和步法复制到拳击台上

内行看门道|UFC蜘蛛人:我把自己的技巧改变成李小龙那样


史泰龙李小龙谁出名(柔道天才海沃德)(6)

李小龙和海沃德·西岗1968年左右在洛杉矶的合影

Nishioka used to go to Bruce house to train once a month, so, he understood why Bruce did not compete in the tournament. Bruce said why should he participate? He believed he had the ability to participate in such kind of “points-fighting” competition but he was not interested. Bruce had many tough training sessions with Chuck Norris, Joe Lewis and Bob Wall who were all first class fighters. In fact, Bruce’s speed was way too fast for them. He was so quick that he could move in and out of their sight before they could all react. Nishioka said this is the compliment made from those martial artists who had personally witnessed and sparred with Bruce, even those who have never praised him before, felt the same way. Bruce was an extraordinary martial artist. They may be reluctant to make these comments but Nishioka is very sure, they are very clear about this fact within their hearts.


西岗以前每个月都会去李小龙家中后院训练一次,所以,他明白为什么李小龙没有参加比赛。

李小龙说他为什么要参加?他相信自己有实力参加这种(当年流行的寸止式或半接触式)“计分”比赛,但他对此毫无兴趣

李小龙(在自家后院)曾与查克·罗礼士、乔·刘易斯和鲍勃·沃尔进行了很多高强度的训练,后者都是一流的职业选手。

事实上,李小龙的(反应和动作)速度对他们来说太快了。他动作如此之快,以至于在他们都未做出反应之前,他就能在他们的视线里打进打出。

西岗说,这是那些亲眼目睹并与他对抗过的武术家们对李小龙的赞美,即使是那些从未赞扬过李小龙的武术家们,也会有同样的感觉。

李小龙是一位非凡的武术家。也许有些(同时代的)武术家可能不愿意发表相关评论,但是西岗非常肯定,在他们的内心里,其实非常清楚这个事实。

西岗说,李小龙超越了他的时代


龙史传真|美国黑带主编水户:李小龙让许多自负的冠军气馁

为道塾·龙史传真|国际李小龙研究专家为你解密:武术家李小龙


史泰龙李小龙谁出名(柔道天才海沃德)(7)

1968年,西岗和罗礼士同时入选黑带名人堂,李小龙作为黑带特邀嘉宾,占C位与两位获奖者合影


【为道塾·编后记】请注意 !刊发本文不是为了要证明李小龙“天下无敌”。这个世界没有绝对的天下无敌。让那些喜欢脱离实际,信口开河,动不动胡扯“天下无敌”的龙吹或龙黑见鬼去吧。

同样,也让那些“李小龙只是一个演员”,“李小龙只是一个表演家”之类,只管结论,无需逻辑,无需证据(或以坊间传说、自造谣言、无间道“龙吹”为据),将广大网友当傻瓜一般带节奏的龙黑胡扯见鬼去吧!

作为“只有立场,没有是非”的没有个性的低智化、情绪化群体,龙吹和龙黑们不能明辨是非。他们已经完全丧失了独立思考能力,他们不会去思考事实真相究竟如何,他们可以无视任何理据,只是满足于在网络对骂狂欢中,不停的揣摩对方的立场,以便划清界限。其中不乏个别另有所图的人,充分利用这些群体,通过语不惊人死不休的偏执断言,传染性煽情,带动龙黑和部分轻信的吃瓜群众起哄,发泄,达成他吸引眼球,制造话题,促进网红的龌龊目的。

法国社会心理学家古斯塔夫·勒庞在《乌合之众》指出:“群众从不渴望真理,面对那些不是自己想要的证据,他们通常会选择毅然离去。如果谬论可以给他们更多的幻想,他们更倾向于崇拜谬论。”这个理论,特别适合解释龙黑们近似歇斯底里的毫无底线的极端和不理性。

一如勒庞所言,这些“群体做任何事情的时候都不经过大脑,只是在感情的两个极端徘徊。”他们总是欲图从某些词汇、某些口号或者某些暗示来下判断,而不是真正的去认识和理解李小龙或截拳道。相对于独立的个体而言,龙吹和龙黑群体只能进行最低级的推理,他们非常擅长偷换概念,或用个例来取代普遍。简言之,龙黑,龙吹,乃至于很多人云亦云,跟风起哄的吃瓜群众们,其实从不渴望了解李小龙和截拳道的真相,只对自造的“无敌”、“表演家”之类谬论话题感兴趣,并有本事在任何时候,任何地点,将任何理智讨论离题万里地拉到这些谬论中去,并以此低智互喷为乐。

请远离那些情绪化、低智商的乌合之众的胡扯,认真听一听这些真正了解李小龙,真正拥有专业资格和专业评判能力的人士说话吧。

还李小龙宗师一个历史真相!

事实永远胜于雄辩。


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